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What Congress and the Media Won’t Tell You ( about Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein and the Lawsuits )

By: Devvy
November 17, 2008

2008 – NewsWithViews.com

 

“Would you rather have one tyrant 3,000 miles away or 3,000 tyrants one mile away?” Mel Gibson as Benjamin Martin, The Patriot

This is the latest on the Obama citizenship crisis and then some research resources for you on major issues.

In my last column, Part II, was devoted to the growing crisis over Barack Hussein Obama refusing to prove he is a natural born citizen; see here. You can get involved with the effort to contact electoral college delegates to stop their vote on December 15, 2008 by clicking here; those links are identified as such.

New developments

Dr. Alan Keyes filed a lawsuit in California, November 14, 2008: ‘Constitutional crisis’ looming over Obama’s birth location. Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see ‘usurper’ in Oval Office. “The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.”

Let me focus on Leo Donofrio’s lawsuit which I covered in Part II of my last column. Leo is asking you to please write a short letter to Justice Clarence Thomas now that his case is docketed. You need only ask Justice Thomas to hear Leo’s case on an expedited basis because Obama’s refusal to prove he’s a natural born citizen is building into a constitutional crisis that cannot be allowed to progress to the swearing in process should the electoral college actually go ahead and vote him in on December 15, 2008. Provide the case title and name:

Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey
United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407

The Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas
United States Supreme Court
One First Street, N.E.,
Washington, D.C. 20543.

I have been exchanging emails with Leo and he continues to reinforce the main issue of ‘natural born citizen’. His latest posting for your convenience:

“Barack Obama’s official web site, Fight The Smears, admits he was a British Citizen at birth. At the very bottom of the section of his web site that shows an alleged official Certification Of Live Birth, the web site lists the following information and link thereto: FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

“Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.” That is a direct admission Barack Obama was a British citizen “at birth”.

“My law suit argues that since Obama had dual citizenship “at birth” and therefore split loyalties “at birth”, he is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States. A “natural born citizen” would have no other jurisdiction over him “at birth” other than that of the United States. The Framers chose the words “natural born” and those words cannot be ignored. The status referred to in Article 2, Section 1, “natural born citizen”, pertains to the status of the person’s citizenship “at birth”.

“The other numerous law suits circling Obama to question his eligibility fail to hit the mark on this issue. Since Obama was, “at birth”, a British citizen, it is completely irrelevant, as to the issue of Constitutional “natural born citizen” status, whether Obama was born in Hawaii or abroad. Either way, he is not eligible to be President. Should Obama produce an original birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii, it will not change the fact that Obama was a British citizen “at birth”.

“Obama has admitted to being a British subject “at birth”. And as will be made perfectly clear below, his being subject to British jurisdiction “at birth” bars him from being eligible to be President of the United States.

“As I have argued before the United States Supreme Court, the 14th Amendment does not confer “natural born citizen” status anywhere in its text. It simply states that a person born in the United States is a “Citizen”, and only if he is “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States.

“Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States:

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

“The most overlooked words in that section are: “…or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution…” You must recall that most, if not all, of the framers of the Constitution were, at birth, born as British subjects.

“Stop and think about that.

“The chosen wording of the Framers here makes it clear that they had drawn a distinction between themselves – persons born subject to British jurisdiction – and “natural born citizens” who would not be born subject to British jurisdiction or any other jurisdiction other than the United States. And so the Framers grandfathered themselves into the Constitution as being eligible to be President. But the grandfather clause only pertains to any person who was a Citizen… at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution. Obama was definitely not a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and so he is not grandfathered in.

“And so, for Obama or anybody else to be eligible to be President, they must be a “natural born citizen” of the United States “at birth”. It should be obvious that the Framers intended to deny the Presidency to anybody who was a British subject “at birth”. If this had not been their intention, then they would not have needed to include a grandfather clause which allowed the Framers themselves to be President.

“If you click through to Factcheck.org, a more detailed discussion as to why Obama was a British citizen at birth explains the relevant statutes:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children:

“British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

“In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.’ “

“The article goes on to state that Obama’s British citizenship was transferred to Kenya as Kenya became independent from the UK and that Obama’s Kenyan citizenship expired when he turned 21 years old. But none of that is relevant since the Constitution requires that every President be a “natural born citizen”. The word “born” is proof positive that the status must be present “at birth”. If this were not the case, then, as stated above, the Framers would not have needed to put in a grandfather clause.

“The Framers recognized that even they were not “natural born citizens” and so they wrote the grandfather clause in to allow any of them to become President. But the grandfather clause only pertains to those who were Citizens at the time of the Constitution’s adoption. And so, Barack Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States and neither is John McCain who was born in Panama, and neither is Roger Calero who was born in Nicaragua.”

All of Leo’s court filings are posted on his site; click here. Barack Hussein Obama is a ‘creation.’ He has had so many names, no one can keep track of his real history. He refuses to release his records for Harvard and Columbia. It has been reported that Obama attended Harvard under a foreign student classification and that is the reason he refuses to open his records. An individual obtained Obama’s SS registration form (selective service); click here and scroll down until you see the form.

Obama reportedly traveled to Pakistan in 1980 and 1981 using an Indonesian passport. I am working on getting documentation on that.

This web site presents the final, very technical report on the document produced by the Obama people in June. After studying the credentials of the individual and the analysis, I feel the case has been made the Certificate of Live Birth released by Obama’s camp is a forgery.

please continue reading: http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd415.htm

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  1. The birth certificate shown in this picture very plainly shows that any alterations to the document would invalidATE tHE CERTIFICATE. #NO HAS BEEN BLANKED OVER.tHEREFORE IT CAN’T BE PROPERLY USED TO CERTIFY oBAMA’S ACTUAL BIRTH DATE.

    Comment by francis fye | November 21, 2008

  2. Worth Your Time
    Found today in Kommersant (Moscow) as written by Professor >Dr. Robert Coambs: (Worthy of your accessing and copying out his reasoning!)

    POTUS= Pres. of the United States

    >Major Premise: To be POTUS, the candidate’s eligibility must be publicly known.

    >Minor Premise: Obama’s eligibility is not publicly known.

    >Conclusion: Therefore Obama is not POTUS.

    Lawyers, even on US Supreme Court, are not generally noted for Aristotelian logic.

    Comment by Kent E. Kelley | November 21, 2008

  3. PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

    Comment by Michael Hopper | November 22, 2008

  4. There are 2 petitions worthy of signature: please sign each one below:

    1) PETITION #1 of 2 (RallyCongress.com)
    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

    2) PETITION #2 of 2 (World Net Daily)
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

    YES WE CAN Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis – Sign the Petition – SIGN THE PETITION TO FORCE OBAMA TO PROVE HE IS A U.S. NATURAL BORN CITIZEN -STOP THE OBAMA CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS

    (petition #2 is the same that kent above posted, i’ve just listed it here so we can copy and paste these around as a “SET.”

    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

    WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTCOME, ONLY TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE

    Comment by MoniQue | November 22, 2008

  5. I think this has to be the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Ever. Keep up the good work!

    Comment by Ted Stevens | November 23, 2008

  6. This whole dark episode in American history will become a bigger problem as time goes on. I imagine in 5, 10 or 20yrs time when we look back the Obamabots will wonder what happened and why they were all brainwashed to over look this obvious faux pas.

    Time has run out, the fight can’t be in the court room of the SCOTUS as they simply will not rule on this, as they too have been paid off to destroy the Constitution. Quite simply someone must get the copy of the certificate and blow it out of the water,

    The future is bleak, I am just sitting back and measuring just how severely effected the public are, the combination of a diet of Coke, Big Macs, Britney Spears, Oprah, CNN and Political Correctness (which is a communist invention). This did not just happen overnight, it has been in planning for around 30yrs.

    ps: Why was Leo’s blog hacked? He put up a new one at http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com/
    ALSO this blog was hacked taken off line? see CACHED here
    http://tinyurl.com/5veusf

    Comment by James S | November 24, 2008

  7. I had a very interesting conversation with some military troops the other day. I just presented them with a hypathetical. I said what if Obama is inaugerated knowing full well he is ineligible to hold the office of president; would you follow his orders as the Commander in Chief and would you place a gun to the head of citizens committed to protecting the constitution if you were called to quell civil unrest? The answers surprised me three of the troops were white and they pointed out that they would side with the citizen because they took an oath to upohold the constitution the other was a minority and said he would side with the president. This certainly was not scientific but it portendes things to come. Get ready its coming

    Comment by Adam | November 25, 2008

  8. God bless the efforts, past, present and future, of all who took that oath and MEANT it.

    Comment by count us out | November 25, 2008

  9. I’ve signed every petition I can and sent letters to Senators, etc. What a helpless feeling that “Barry Soetoro” may pull off this fraud. I have to hope that these efforts reach the eyes & ears of the Supreme Court, epsecially Justice Thomas. At the Saddleback debate, Obama stated that the 1 Justice he would not have confirmed would have been Thomas. Ineresting indeed! I hope Justice Thomas serves the people and the Constitution he swore to uphold before this guy has a chance to do untold harm to our Country. He has to be stopped!

    Comment by frankie | November 25, 2008

  10. I wrote letters to every justice in the Supreme Court and told me Obama does not have a BC for America. He is a foriegn national and should be deported. He has never applied for citizenship in this country. He is a Keyan and has a Kenyan passport or he could not of gotten in the Kenya to support his counsin to overthrow the new presidency that he had lost. Obama gave him o0ne Million dollars and he used a megaphone to rile up the citizens to kill anyone that did not agree with them. They burned donw a chuch with women and chidlren in it who had run to safty. It burned to the ground and Obama was there.

    He is not a citizen and as such cannot show us a valid bc. He has spend thousands of dollars with layweres fighting this problem.

    Comment by Marcia | November 27, 2008

  11. Obama used a Kenyan Passport as he is not an American. AT the tme he used it Kenya was at war and they would not let anyone into the country unless they a Passport from Kenya. Obama sailed through.
    I am beginning to think that he does not know who he is. He cannot remember from one day to the next what he promised to all the people. He cannot fulfill any of those promises. And his signature look to me to problematic

    Comment by Marcia | November 27, 2008


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